OUTFRONT Media Inc. (NYSE: OUT) reported a successful third quarter in 2024, with a 5% increase in U.S. Media revenue and an 11% rise in adjusted OIBDA. The company, led by CEO Jeremy Male and CFO Matthew Siegel, announced a special dividend and a reverse stock split during the call. Digital billboards were a standout performer, with revenue growth of 10%, now representing over 32% of total revenues. Despite a non-material accounting error and challenges from recent storms, the company remains optimistic, projecting a 3% U.S. media revenue growth for Q4, primarily driven by the New York MTA.
Key Takeaways
- OUTFRONT Media's U.S. Media segment revenue grew by 5%, with a 7.3% increase in transit revenue.
- Digital billboard revenue jumped 10%, now accounting for more than 32% of total revenues.
- A special dividend of $0.75 per share was announced, along with a reverse stock split.
- Full-year consolidated AFFO is projected between $295 million and $300 million.
- Challenges including non-material accounting errors and recent storms were acknowledged.
- Political ad spending for 2024 is expected to hit around $15 million.
- The company is implementing programmatic ad tech at the MTA to drive growth.
Company Outlook
- OUTFROUNT Media anticipates a full-year consolidated AFFO in the range of $295 to $300 million.
- Q4 U.S. Media revenue growth is expected to be around 3%.
- Political ad spending for the year is projected to reach $15 million, a significant increase from 2020.
Bearish Highlights
- The company reported a non-material accounting error that required revisions to equity line items.
- Recent storms in the Southeast have affected advertising, posing challenges for the company.
- The exit from the MTA billboard contract is expected to create a short-term revenue headwind.
Bullish Highlights
- CEO Jeremy Male expressed confidence that 2025 will surpass 2024 in performance.
- The digitization program at the MTA is expected to enhance product offerings and drive revenue recovery.
- Programmatic ad tech is anticipated to drive growth in transit business.
Misses
- No significant acquisitions were reported during the quarter.
- The entertainment sector's recovery has been slower than anticipated due to the impacts of last year's strikes.
Q&A Highlights
- CEO addressed concerns about shifts in advertiser spending from billboards to transit, emphasizing the MTA's significant reach.
- Automated buying has positively impacted pricing, with programmatic CPMs approximately $1 higher than direct sales.
OUTFRONT Media Inc. has navigated the challenges of the past quarter with a strategic focus on digital growth and local revenue. The company's emphasis on enhancing its digital billboard portfolio and leveraging programmatic technology at the MTA indicates a commitment to adapting to the evolving advertising landscape. With the expectation of continued revenue growth and a solid performance in the political ad space, OUTFRONT Media appears to be positioning itself for a robust end to the year and an even stronger 2025. Investors and industry watchers will be looking forward to the full-year results presentation in February for a more comprehensive view of the company's performance.
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Full transcript - Outfront Media Inc (NYSE:OUT) Q3 2024:
Operator: Hello everyone, and welcome to OUTFRONT Media’s Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. My name is Lydia, and I will be your operator today. After the prepared remarks, there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] I’ll now hand you over to Stephan Bisson, Vice President of Investor Relations, to begin. Please go ahead.
Stephan Bisson: Good morning, and thank you for joining our 2024 third quarter earnings call. With me on the call today are Jeremy Male, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Matthew Siegel, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. After a discussion of our financial results, we’ll open the lines for a question-and-answer session. Our comments today will refer to the earnings release and the slide presentation that you can find on the Investor Relations section of our website, outfront.com. After today’s call is concluded, a replay will be available there as well. This conference call may include forward-looking statements. Relevant factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements are listed in our earnings materials and in our SEC filings, including our 2023 Form 10-K and our September 30, 2024 Form 10-Q, which will be filed later today. We will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures on this call. Any references to OIBDA made today will be on an adjusted basis. Reconciliations of OIBDA and other non-GAAP financial measures are in the appendix of the slide presentation, the earnings release and on our website, which also includes presentations with prior period reconciliations. Also, please note that given the June sale of our Canadian business, our consolidated third quarter results do not include any Canada results, compared to the comparable prior year period. Detailed historical financial results of the divested Canadian business can be found on Slide 25 of our slide presentation and detailed historical U.S. Media financial results can be found on Slide 24. Given the sale of our Canadian business, our remarks today will focus primarily on the results of our U.S. Media segment. Let me now turn the call over to Jeremy.
Jeremy Male: Thank you, Stephan, and thanks to everyone for joining us on our call this morning. It's a pleasure to report our third quarter results today, our first period as a fully domestic company. As Stefan just mentioned and similar to last quarter, our remarks today will focus almost entirely on our U.S. Media segment. As you can see on Slide 3 which summarizes our headline results, our U.S. business grew revenues over 5% driven by an acceleration in our billboard growth and high single digit growth in transit. U.S. Media adjusted OIBDA grew just over 11% driven by the revenue growth I just described, combined with U.S. Media expense growth of just 3%. Together, U.S. Media incorporate adjusted OIBDA was up 6%. Consolidated AFFO grew nearly 7% to $81 million and puts us well on our way to achieving the high end of the growth target we laid out earlier this year. Our AFFO growth is impressive given that we are comparing against the seasonally strong quarter from last year that included our since divested Canadian business. On Slide 4 you can see our U.S. Media revenues in more detail. Billboard revenues were up 4.8%. Our strongest markets continue to be those that are more locally skewed, such as those in New Jersey, Texas and Michigan. Every region was up except the West, which improved sequentially but remained flattish due to some weakness in Los Angeles. Transit revenue was up 7.3% versus the prior year, driven by growth in all markets including the New York MTA. As has been the case all year, our improved transit revenues were the result of solid performances from both our local and national teams. The breakdown of local and national revenues in our U.S. Media business can be seen on Slide 5. Local remained the primary driver of our growth, up almost 7%. National revenues improved from Q2 levels and were up a little over 3%. On a consolidated basis. Our best performing categories in the third quarter were Retail, Tech, Utilities, Telecom (BCBA:TECO2m), Legal and Government Political. On the weaker side were also Health, Medical (TASE:PMCN), Alcohol, and Education. Slide 6 illustrates our solid U.S. Media billboard yield growth, up almost 7% year-over-year, reaching just under $3,000. The drivers of this yield growth remain dour digital conversions, rates, occupancy and higher automated transaction revenue. Slide 7 highlights our strong U.S. Media digital performance with revenue growing 10% in the quarter, representing over 32% of our total revenues, up from 31% last year. US digital billboard was up over 11% while transit was up just over 8%, again driven predominantly by the MTA. Automated revenues comprised nearly 17% of our total digital revenues in the quarter. About 7% of our digital transit revenue came from automated channels, up from just under 2% last year, reinforcing our belief that the MTA's digital network is well aligned for automated selling. With that, let me now hand it over to Matts to review the rest of the financials.
Matthew Siegel: Thanks Jeremy and good morning everyone. As with Jeremy's remarks, most of my comments will focus on our U.S. Media segment as these are the primary operations going forward. For a deeper dive into our financial statements, please turn to Slide 8 for a more detailed look at our U.S. Media expenses. Total (EPA:TTEF) U.S. Media expenses were up just under $10 million or just over 3% year-over-year. U.S. Media billboard lease expense was up 1% versus last year. Small increases on a portion of our inventory on fixed rates were partially offset by lower revenues on the portion of our inventory operated on leases with revenue share arrangements primarily located in New York and Los Angeles. U.S. Media transit franchise expense was up 2% versus the prior year principally due to higher MAG payments to the MTA and higher revenues on contracts operated under revenue shares, partially offset by the non-renewal of a loss making contract and small benefits from amendments to the existing transit agreements. U.S. Media posting, maintenance and other expenses were up about 10% versus the prior year primarily due to higher compensation related expenses and an increase in business activity driving higher posting and rotation costs. U.S. Media SG&A expense grew less than 3% or just over $2 million during the quarter due to higher compensation related expenses partially offset by lower professional fees and smaller provision for doubtful accounts. Slide 9 provides additional detail on the sources of U.S. Media OIBDA. Total U.S. Media OIBDA was up 11% to just over $133 million. U.S billboard OIBDA was up 8% to $136 million, which represents a margin of 37.8%, up 110 basis points year-over-year. Transit OIBDA improved by about $3 million to a loss of just under $3 million. The improvement was primarily due to the better revenue Jeremy described earlier in the call. On Slide 10 you can see our combined U.S. Media and Corporate OIBDA which was up about 6% to approximately $117 million. Q3 corporate expense was up $6.7 million. The majority was due to consulting fees and the impact of market fluctuations on an unfunded equity linked retirement plan. Turning to capital expenditures on Slide 11, Q3 U.S. Media CapEx spend was $17.6 million including $5.5 million of maintenance expense. Growth CapEx was up slightly while maintenance CapEx was down about $2 million. For the full year we believe we will spend approximately $85 million of total CapEx towards the higher end of our prior range, including some spends complete repairs related to Hurricane Milton. We ended the quarter with a little more than 1900 digital billboards, up 17 from the end of the second quarter and representing under 5% of our total billboard inventory. In transit, we added nearly 1400 digital displays in the U.S. in the third quarter. As has been the case thus far this year, the installations were mostly small format screens on subway and train cars in the New York MTA and we are happy to confirm that we have substantially completed our initial deployment commitment. While speaking of the New York MTA, hopefully you noticed that we did not have an impairment charge this quarter as we currently expect net positive cash flows through the end of the amended term of the MTA agreement. As such, we would not expect to incur additional impairment charges going forward on our MTA equipment deployment cost spending. Now turning to consolidated AFFO on Slide 12, you can see the bridge on our Q3 AFFO of nearly $81 million. The $5 million year-over-year increase was due to higher U.S. Media OIBDA, lower interest expense, lower U.S. Media maintenance CapEx and lower other maintenance CapEx partially offset by lower other OIBDA principally related to the Canada sale and corporate expense. For 2024, we expect that reported consolidated AFFO will be between $295 million and $300 million. Please turn to Slide 13 for an update on our balance sheet. Committed liquidity is over $600 million, including around $30 million of cash, almost $500 million available via revolver and $110 million available under our accounts receivable securitization facility. As of September 30th, our total net leverage was 5.0 times, down from 5.4 times year end of 2023. We expect to continue to delever within our 4 to 5 times target range through adjusted OIBDA growth. Turning to our dividend, we announced today that our Board of Directors approved a $0.75 per share special dividend totaling about $125 million, payable on December 31st to shareholders of record at the close of business on November 15. About $50 million or $0.30 per share will be paid in cash, the same per share amount as the three common dividends paid earlier this year and the remaining $0.45 per share, or about $75 million, we paid in shares of our common stock. Stockholders will have the option to elect to receive their special dividend in all cash or all stock. However, if the aggregate amount of stockholder cash elections exceeds the $49.8 million cash limit, then the payment of such cash elections will be made on a pro rata basis to shareholders who made the cash election with the balance paid in shares of common stock. Please refer to our SEC filing for further information on the special dividend election process. This special dividend represents the projected excess remaining balance of 100% of the company's 2024 distributable REIT income beyond the cash dividends paid earlier this year and has been sized to maximize the tax savings afforded to us by the REIT structure as well as retain the deleveraging effect of the Canada sale completed in June. To offset the small dilutive impact of the common stock portion of the special dividend, our Board of Directors also approved a reverse stock split to return our aggregate share count to pre-stock dividend levels, which we expect to complete in January of 2025. There were no large or notable acquisitions made during the quarter looking at our current acquisition pipeline, we expect to complete about a total of $25 million of acquisitions this year. Before I pass the call back to Jeremy, I'll take a moment to explain some accounting revisions in our documents. In connection with finalizing our results for the third quarter, we identified an error related to the treatment of non-controlling interest on our balance sheet involving a few of our historical consolidated joint ventures. As noted in our earnings release, we concluded that the error was not material to our previously issued financial statements, but would require revisions to our current and comparative periods with respect to certain equity line items on our balance sheet and our consolidated statements of equity. There is no impact on our total assets and liabilities, income statement, statement of cash flows, OIBDA or AFFO related to this matter. As an administrative matter, we also decided to voluntarily revise our previously issued financial information to reflect the immaterial out of period adjustment related to variable billboard property lease costs that was already recorded and disclosed in the first quarter of 2023. Please refer to our SEC filings for further information on the revisions. In closing, it was a good quarter and we look forward to running through the tape to the end of the year. With that, let me turn the call back to Jeremy.
Jeremy Male: Thanks very much, Matt. So, before we jump into revenue guidance for the fourth quarter, I want to mention a couple of recent developments which will impact comparability for the prior year, particularly as it relates to our billboard business. First, as many of you may have seen last month, we recently exited a billboard contract with the New York MTA, creating a revenue headwind for Q4. Importantly, and as implied by our full year AFFO guidance, we expect a de minimis impact to our OIBDA and AFFO this year. For 2025, it will continue to be a revenue headwind but also be very much margin enhancing. Secondly, the storms in the Southeast will also present a small headwind as we proactively removed advertising copy for safety reasons and it took some time to replace given some of the damage in the area. We're immensely proud of the team in the region who responded to storms in such a safe and expeditious manner. So with that said, looking ahead to the fourth quarter and based on what we are seeing in the business as of today, we estimate that reported Q4 U.S. media revenue growth will be around 3% with billboard in the low single digits and transit again growing high single digits, led by the New York MTA. Before turning it over to Q&A, I wanted to speak a little bit more about the billboard contract in New York that we exited as it's illustrative of our broader strategy with regards how we approach contracts and partnerships with any counterparty, municipal or private or any property type, both billboard and transit. This particular contract exit reflects our focus on improving margins and the economic returns associated with these partnerships. When bidding on new or legacy contracts, particularly those with revenue shares and minimum annual guarantees, we strive to submit proposal that reflect the value brought to such a partnership by OUTFRONT, requiring an attractive return to the company and its shareholders. So with that operator, let's now open the lineup for any questions.
Operator: Thank you, Jeremy. [Operator Instructions] Our first question today comes from David Karnovsky with JPMorgan (NYSE:JPM). Please go ahead. Your line is open.
David Karnovsky: Hey, thank you. Maybe just following up on the Q4 guide. I don't know if you can size the impact of the MTA versus the storms you called out in the Southeast. And then I think the company that had won the MTA contract or bid for the MTA contract had flagged some strategic benefit as a result of that. Is there kind of, was there any consideration on that front from your side? Just like to hear more on that.
Jeremy Male: Yes, thanks, Dave, for the question. So as to sort of scale, around about a point and a half of growth in that sort of range and as I say, then there's a small piece for the storms that we mentioned. Look, with regards to strategic benefit, every company has to make their own decision. When they bid these contracts? I wouldn't want to comment on, active competitors bidding strategy, but what I can say is that, from our point of view, as the contract, we bid it on the basis that would work for us and that's kind of all you can say in these situations.
David Karnovsky: Okay. And then just on the property lease expense down, we would have thought maybe this would have firmed up a bit with the better result national. So I'm curious if you could walk through national by market, what you're seeing in places like LA and New York relative to the other regions. And you mentioned the west flattish. I don't know if you can kind of walk through that and what you're seeing with the media vertical. Thanks.
Jeremy Male: Matt you go.
Matthew Siegel: I'm sorry, this is Matt. As Jeremy mentioned in his prepared remarks, we're still seeing a little bit of weakness in LA and a little bit in New York Nationals, not back to where we'd like it, still stronger right now in transit. So our billboard lease expense not up as much as we've said in past years. It slipped around. When New York and LA over-perform or over-perform their peers, you see a little higher lease expense. We're seeing the opposite throughout most of this year.
David Karnovsky: Thank you.
Operator: Our next question comes from Cameron McVeigh with Morgan Stanley (NYSE:MS). Please go ahead.
Cameron McVeigh: Hi. Thanks. Just may be an update on the MTA integration of some of the programmatic ad tech capabilities down there, how the timing shaping up and potential impacted transit results going forward?
Jeremy Male: So thanks for the question, Cameron. You heard the call out there that 7% of the revenue generated in Q3 on the MTA came through automated channels. Basically, we've now hooked up our live boards, which are all of the screens that you see on platforms. We've also hooked up the urban panels that are the panels that you see above the subway entrances. What we haven't yet done is hook up on the mobile panels which are on train on the subway and also Metro North and Long Island Railroad. So we'll get that benefit as we go down the track, and that's going to be over the coming months. We're also in the process of hooking up our assets in Boston and D.C. and San Francisco. So, we'll get a bit of benefit also there in 2025. We've been growing transit very nicely this year. It was good for Matt to be able to talk about the MTA in terms of the whole sort of being cash positive as we go forward. So that's a great milestone for the business and we are excited, I think, by the growth opportunity that the transit business will give us as we go through 2025.
Cameron McVeigh: Got it. Thank you. And then just secondly, are you able to size the political ad spend and impact? Maybe how that had trended over 4Q. Thanks.
Matthew Siegel: I can take that for the year. In 2024, we got about $15 million of political I can compare that to 2020 when we had about $10. So a little more effort, a little more involvement of our government affairs team I think led to increase about half of that amount is in the fourth quarter obviously primarily October.
Operator: Our next question comes from Lance Vitanza with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Lance Vitanza: Thanks. Thanks for taking the question. I wonder if you could talk in a little bit more detail about the increased spend at Corporate and I'm just trying to get a sense for how much of that can we think of as being one time or non-recurring and the higher professional fees was that just for the Canada sale? That's easily dismissed if that's the case. But the management consulting project and higher comp sound a little bit more nebulous and or recurring and then particularly I'm not clear on exactly what happened with the benefit plan I think you mentioned that is unfunded but yet required some incremental expense as well. So appreciate your help there.
Matthew Siegel: Sure. It's Matt again, I'll break it down. The benefit plan is an unfunded deferred comp plan, you know I think tied to the S&P 500 or another equity index. So basically when stock markets go up in a quarter it's a higher expense. When they go down it's a good guy. So there's almost always and the line item is relatively small so it sticks out so there's always going to be some volatility from that and we just try to make people aware, up or down or order of magnitude. The professional fees in Corporate is a nationally recognized management consulting firm we've been working with most of the year helping us really look at our assets and generating more revenue and more EBITDA off the assets that we have. We think the investment this year will add some benefit this year but a lot more in the future. So we're learning some new techniques in improving our already strong performance around our markets. I think those are the two big ones we called out comp in 2024. It's mostly we were a little bit off last year in our numbers where we're crewing closer. As we mentioned we're at the high end of our ASFO guide. I think we're accruing closer to 100% of our short-term compensation plans versus last year we were a little bit under our 100% targets. Hopefully that's helpful.
Lance Vitanza: Very helpful. And if I could just squeeze in one more I was actually if anything seems like national came in a little bit better than I would have than I might have thought. And I'm wondering if you're seeing that continue in the fourth quarter or is that sort of. Was it a kind of a flash in the pan and maybe we see softer performance going forward.
Jeremy Male: Yes. Thanks Lance. National was certainly better in Q3 than we'd seen for the first two quarters. And as we look at it, as we look at it now, we'd expect national to be up in Q4.
Lance Vitanza: Thanks very much.
Operator: Our next question today comes from Ian Zaffino with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.
Ian Zaffino: Great. You guys maybe give us an idea of what conversions look like for the remainder of the year and how you're thinking about it into 2025. Thanks.
Jeremy Male: Sure, Ian. I think we will get our conversions usually target a little higher number. Probably Digital is about 100 to 150, may be on the low end of that, fewer acquisitions this year, fewer management agreements, and around the same number of conversions. So we'll be adding fewer digitals this year. I think the number in 2025, I'm not prepared to give a precise guidance range, but we're pretty confident it's going to be higher in 2025 than in 2024.
Ian Zaffino: Okay, thanks. And then also, if I could speak in one more on the MTA, and I don't know if you could per se answer this, but, as far as the rates going up, I guess ridership is still kind of well below where it was pre-COVID. Are you seeing either advertisers returning or kind of what's driving that rate? Just given that a lot of the ridership is just sort of stalled. And any kind of view on what ridership might be doing going forward? I guess a lot of companies are kind of calling people back five days a week. But any thoughts there would be helpful. Thanks.
Jeremy Male: Yes, thanks, Ian. I mean, we said right the way along that we anticipated we'd be able to get our revenues back up to pre-COVID levels without the audience growing back to or ridership growing to pre-COVID levels. And that's basically because we just have a much better product. We've undertaken this sort of huge digitization program. So now you can be more timely, you can be more creative, and it's just a very exciting product. And I think that's really what's drawing advertisers back. And as we look at it, I think we really feel very positive, as, from the question that we had earlier with regards to, automated revenues that that will, you know, keep, keep driving a very pretty solid digital growth story on our transit assets and particularly on the MTA.
Ian Zaffino: Okay, thank you very much.
Operator: Our next question comes from Daniel Osley with Wells Fargo (NYSE:WFC). Please go ahead.
Daniel Osley: Thank you. Good morning. Maybe just one on National. You've talked in the past about the headwind from the media and entertainment vertical. So just wondering how that vertical specifically is trended early in Q4, and do you expect the strong films later in the quarter to give you a further boost? Thank you.
Jeremy Male: Yes, thanks for the question. I think it's fair to say that this year we did expect that the median entertainment category would sort of bounce back more strongly than we saw. It certainly seems to have taken, I mean, not just for us, but I mean, for the industry as a whole, longer, I think, to get over the impacts of both strikes last year. Where we stand right now, I think we feel okay about the movie category as we look into the fourth quarter. And there are other areas of entertainment that are doing well for us.
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Daniel Osley: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from Patrick Scholl with Barrington Research. Your line is open.
Patrick Scholl: Hi, good morning. Thank you. I just had another question about the MTA. To the extent that you do get some recovery in ridership, I guess, is there any sort of concern you have in, like the baskets of out of home spending for advertisers and that may be being reallocated from kind of the billboard side to the transit side?
Jeremy Male: Typically when you look at what we do have, a good crossover coming between people that users, on the billboard side of the business and the transit business? We also have some very specific advertisers in transit who are buying transit from different reasons. The commuting audience on Metro North, is not necessarily the same audience you get on the Cross Bronx Expressway. So, that I think has always been the case. We have sort of, very high end audiences, say in various parts of parts of the MTA system. And, I think most commentators believe that, ridership continues to creep up in cities. I think we do. But what, we're kind of doing just fine without it. Because whichever way you look at it, 4 million sets of eyeballs every single day or more than that is a huge, huge audience for advertisers. And I think people are just beginning to re-appreciate that.
Patrick Scholl: Okay, and then maybe on the automated buying side, I guess you said that that's helped bring in new advertisers. What sort of impact has that had on pricing?
Jeremy Male: So when we look at the pricing that we achieve on a CPM basis through our programmatic channels, about a dollar higher than the CPMs that we achieved through our direct sales force. So in general, do you know what I mean? Programmatic is a very positive part of our business right now. Not all of the dollars that we get on programmatic are necessarily absolutely new. Some of them might have come through a different channel. So I should make that point. But also, I mean, we take getting revenues from a bunch of advertisers that frankly, we never would have expected and in some cases haven't even heard of. So, it really is extending the number of different advertisers on a weekly basis on our digital platforms.
Patrick Scholl: Okay, thank you.
Operator: Thank you. We have no further questions, so I'd like to turn the call back to Jeremy now for any closing comments.
Jeremy Male: Thanks, Lydia. And thanks to everyone for joining us today. I'm sure I'll be seeing many of you at the various conferences and events this winter, but for those that I don't, looking forward to presenting our full year results to you in February. Thank you very much indeed.
Operator: This concludes our call today. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your line.
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