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Earnings call: ProFrac Holding reports strong Q2 amid market challenges

EditorAhmed Abdulazez Abdulkadir
Published 09/08/2024, 11:38
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ProFrac Holding Corp (PFHC) has announced its financial results for the second quarter of 2024, demonstrating robust operational performance and solid financial outcomes.

The company reported revenues of $579 million and adjusted EBITDA of $136 million, with a 23% margin, despite a 15% decline from the previous quarter. ProFrac achieved record efficiency in its pressure pumping segment and increased its market share in West Texas, a key U.S. land market for completions.

The acquisition of Advanced Stimulation Technologies is expected to enhance the company's earnings and market position. ProFrac generated $74 million in free cash flow and is actively exploring options to meet rising customer demand for power generation. While facing weakness in natural gas regions, the company anticipates a volume recovery in the third quarter.

Key Takeaways

  • ProFrac's Q2 2024 revenue remained flat at $579 million, with a 23% adjusted EBITDA margin.
  • The company generated $74 million in free cash flow and increased market share in West Texas.
  • ProFrac completed the acquisition of Advanced Stimulation Technologies, aiming to boost its market stance.
  • Total debt stood at $1.2 billion, with plans to use free cash flow for deleveraging.
  • Despite current challenges, ProFrac is optimistic about a recovery in the natural gas market and is focused on cost management and margin expansion.

Company Outlook

  • ProFrac expects a recovery in gas market volumes in the third quarter.
  • The company plans to incur $150-200 million in maintenance capital expenditures and approximately $100 million for growth-related capital expenditures in 2024.
  • ProFrac is cautiously optimistic about the gas market in the second half of the year and is preparing for a flat environment with disciplined cost management.

Bearish Highlights

  • Adjusted EBITDA declined by 15% from Q1, impacted by decreased active fleets, weaker pricing, and lower cost absorption.
  • The company acknowledges weakness in natural gas regions affecting performance.

Bullish Highlights

  • ProFrac achieved record-setting efficiency in its pressure pumping segment.
  • The company increased its market share in the leading U.S. land market for completions.
  • Acquisition of Advanced Stimulation Technologies is expected to positively influence earnings.

Misses

  • There was a noticeable decline in adjusted EBITDA margin, which fell to 23% from a higher figure in the previous quarter.

Q&A Highlights

  • Matt Wilks discussed the company's approach to raising rates on fleets and emphasized the importance of customer relationships.
  • ProFrac may reactivate an idled mine for industrial opportunities, highlighting a strategic focus on cost rationalization and efficiency.

ProFrac Holding Corp has managed to navigate through a challenging market environment in the second quarter of 2024, maintaining flat revenue while focusing on strategic growth and operational efficiency. The company's acquisition and market share growth, coupled with its emphasis on integrated solutions, positions it well for anticipated improvements in the natural gas market. ProFrac's disciplined approach to cost management and its efforts to optimize its fleet and mine operations signal a commitment to margin expansion and value creation for stakeholders.

InvestingPro Insights

ProFrac Holding Corp's (PFHC) second quarter of 2024 results reflect a company striving to maintain stability and growth amidst market challenges. To provide additional context to ProFrac's current financial health and future prospects, here are some insights based on real-time data from InvestingPro:

  • The company's market capitalization stands at a robust $1.15 billion, indicating a strong market presence.
  • ProFrac's Price to Earnings (P/E) ratio is currently not applicable, as the company has not been profitable over the last twelve months, aligning with the reported decline in adjusted EBITDA margin to 23%.
  • Revenue for the last twelve months as of Q1 2024 was reported at $2.354 billion, despite a revenue decline of 19.88% indicating the market pressures ProFrac faces.

InvestingPro Tips highlight some critical aspects of ProFrac's stock performance:

  • The stock has experienced a significant downturn, trading near its 52-week low, which could be a point of concern or a potential entry point for investors looking at long-term value.
  • Analysts predict the company will be profitable this year, providing a glimmer of hope for a turnaround in financial performance.

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Full transcript - Profrac Holding Corp (ACDC) Q2 2024:

Operator: Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the ProFrac Holding Corp. Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on a listen-only mode and the floor will be open for questions and comments following the presentation. [Operator Instructions] At this time, it is my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Michael Messina, Director of Finance. Sir, the floor is yours.

Michael Messina: Thank you, operator, good morning everyone. We appreciate you joining us for ProFrac Holding Corp's conference call and webcast to review our second quarter 2024 results. With me today are Matt Wilks, Executive Chairman; Ladd Wilks, Chief Executive Officer; and Austin Harbour, Chief Financial Officer. Following my remarks, management will provide high level commentary on the operational and financial highlights of the second quarter before opening the call up to your questions. There will be a replay of today's call available by webcast on the company's website at pfholdingscorp.com, as well as a telephonic recording available until August 15, 2024. More information on how to access these replay features is included in the company's earnings release. Please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, August 8, 2024, and therefore you are advised that any time sensitive information may no longer be accurate as of the time of any replay, listening or transcript reading. Also, comments on this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the United States Federal Securities Laws, including management's expectations of future financial and business performance. These forward-looking statements reflect the current views of ProFrac's management and are not guarantees of future performance. Various risks, uncertainties and contingencies could cause actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in management's forward-looking statements. The listener or reader is encouraged to read ProFrac's Form 10-K and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be found at sec.gov or on the company's investor relations website section under the SEC filings tab to understand those risks, uncertainties and contingencies. The comments today also include certain non-GAAP financial measures as well as other adjusted figures to exclude the contribution of Flotek. Additional details and reconciliations to the most directly comparable consolidated and GAAP financial measures are included in the quarterly earnings press release, which can be found on the company's website. And now I would like to turn the call over to ProFrac's Executive Chairman, Mr. Matt Wilks.

Matt Wilks: Thank you, Michael, and good morning everyone. After my prepared remarks, Ladd will comment further on the performance of our subsidiaries and Austin will walk through our financial performance. In the second quarter, we continued to set operating efficiency records, delivering strong performance for our customers. We were able to achieve this performance despite the rollover of multiple fleets to new customers during the quarter, resulting in additional calendar at white space. Overall, the market for our services has been challenged by operators having reduced drilling and completion activity, particularly in natural gas regions. However, we successfully executed our commercial strategy to partner with customers that value integrated solutions. As we have conveyed in prior quarters, we firmly believe that consolidation by upstream operators will benefit ProFrac. Larger operators driving consolidation prefer to collaborate with service companies that deliver efficiency at scale. Given ProFrac's leading position throughout the completions value chain, we are able to take advantage of opportunities in a rapidly evolving marketplace. For example, the majority of our customers have completed a transaction in the last two years. Additionally, we successfully increased market share in our largest operating region, West Texas, which has witnessed material operator consolidation post-COVID and is the leading U.S. land market for unconventional completions, activity and spending. In the second quarter, we generated $136 million of adjusted EBITDA on $579 million of revenue. Of note, we generated $74 million in free cash flow in the second quarter. These results illustrate that at scale, ProFrac is built to navigate market headwinds while generating free cash flow. Furthermore, our recent efforts to align with customers that prefer integrated offerings should enable ProFrac to continue to take advantage of opportunities through the cycle. Our performance in the second quarter is underpinned by record setting efficiency per active fleet, a direct result of our team's successful execution in the field. Additionally, ProFrac's internal manufacturing and service capabilities enable us to rapidly repair, maintain, upgrade and redeploy fleets. We believe that in-basin scale, particularly in the most active basins, is a critical differentiating factor for ProFrac. We not only continued to invest in oil weighted regions, but also purposely maintained our positions in gas weighted markets. This strategy enables us to strengthen our customer relationships with operators based on a track record of delivering service quality and operational performance. Further, we believe, we will benefit from increased levels of activity as a recovery in natural gas basins materializes. In mid June, we executed on an opportunity to strategically add scale at an attractive entry point through the acquisition of Advanced Stimulation Technologies or AST. Importantly, AST enhances ProFrac's earnings profile and improves our market position in the most active region in the Lower 48. AST's core values of best-in-class service and efficiency align extremely well with ProFrac's culture. Looking forward, we will continue to invest in next-generation equipment that enables diesel substitution, utilizing natural gas as the primary fuel source. Demand for our e-fleets and our dual fuel or dynamic gas blending assets remains strong, and we continue to make progress on fleet deployments. Today, 70% of our active fleets include e-fleet or natural gas capable equipment. Our ability to provide customers with significant fuel savings, high reliability and efficient operations have made our next-generation assets highly sought after and a critical part of our service offerings. In line with our vertically integrated, customer centric strategy, we are actively evaluating alternatives related to power generation. There has been a significant surge in demand for power generation across a number of end markets, driven at least in part by grid constraints and failures, AI-driven computing power requirements, and broader industrial scale electrification trends. In particular, our customers are increasingly requiring solutions that enable diesel substitution coupled with on demand power generation at the wellhead. As a leader in next-generation e-fleets and diesel substitution solutions, we are well positioned to organically diversify to provide power generation. Turning to Alpine. Weakness in natural gas regions and general activity softness impacted our results. Although volumes and pricing were negatively impacted during the second quarter and into the third quarter, we are encouraged by the recent uptick in commercial opportunities and potential additional volumes that could materialize as we move through Q3. As a company, we continue to make progress on our priorities, and I'm proud of our team's execution and commitment to excellence. In summary, we continue to field new inbound requests for additional integrated fleet deployments with the highest demand for electric and Tier 4 dual fuel or DGB technologies. As of today, approximately 70% of our active fleets utilize next-generation technology. We achieved a new record for efficiencies based on pump hours per active fleet, a testament to best-in-class execution by our employees in the field and our repair and maintenance and manufacturing capabilities. Although we witnessed a slight decrease in overall utilization during the second quarter, we expect continued improvement in efficiencies as we progress through the third quarter. Strengthened by our vertically integrated model, we generated $74 million of free cash flow despite market headwinds. We increased in-basin scale in the most active region for completions in the Lower 48 West Texas through both organic and inorganic investments. We improved alignment with operators, driving consolidation. The majority of our customers have executed M&A. We've positioned ProFrac to deliver long term value for our stakeholders by delivering the most efficient solutions through vertically integrated in-basin scaled offerings, best-in-class service, and the relentless focus on free cash flow generation through the cycle. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ladd.

Ladd Wilks: Thanks, Matt. I'll begin with an overview of our performance in each segment. Starting with pressure pumping, I'm proud to report we achieved another record quarter for efficiency despite a challenging market, making this once again the most efficient quarter in ProFrac's history. This is the second consecutive quarter in which ProFrac achieved records for pumping hours, pumping hours per fleet and pumping hours per day for active fleets. ProFrac's best performing fleets exceeded 600 hours per month. Our ability to provide best-in-class service is a direct result of the operational improvements we've made internally and the emphasis we placed on our commercial strategy. In particular, we are strategically invested both organically and inorganically to expand in-basin scale in West Texas, our largest region and the most active region for completions in U.S. land. Due to weakness in natural gas prices and the completion of several programs early in the quarter, we experienced an average active fleet count that was relatively in line with the first quarter and lower than our expectations. These delays were felt across the industry as operators reevaluated planned activity and spending, as evidenced by the 6% decline in the horizontal rig count during the quarter. Our Proppant segment was also impacted by weaker than anticipated natural gas related activity. However, we took action to manage our costs and work to replace volumes with spot opportunities. Prolonged headwinds in natural gas regions have continued into early Q3, but we believe that volumes have now troughed and anticipate a recovery as we progress through the quarter. In recent months, we have implemented a number of initiatives aimed at improving utilization and profitability of our mines. These include idling our mine in Maryville, Louisiana, making targeted reductions in headcount and continuing to deploy automation across our mines with a goal of increasing operating leverage. In summary, Alpine is positioned to produce higher throughput, higher utilization and lower cost per ton as market fundamentals improve. I'd like to reiterate that at scale we believe we have the lowest cost in the industry. We have a bespoke, vertically integrated platform that benefits from higher absorption as we increase activity. Leveraging in-base and scale and integrated offerings coupled with best-in-class service enables us to drive higher operating leverage and to partner with operators to deliver efficiencies while generating free cash flow. This is precisely what ProFrac is built for. I want to thank our outstanding team for their hard work, dedication and commitment to safety. We have the best team in the industry and their focus on executing our differentiated strategy makes it possible for ProFrac to succeed every day. I'll now hand the call over to our new CFO, Austin Harbour to cover financial results in more detail. We're excited to have Austin join the team at ProFrac. His extensive knowledge of the industry and financial expertise have strengthened ProFrac's team. We look forward to his contributions as we execute our strategy and capitalize on future opportunities. Austin, take it away.

Austin Harbour: Thank you for the kind words Ladd. It's an honor to join the team. I believe the potential for value creation is significant at ProFrac. I look forward to contributing to the team while maximizing value for stakeholders. With respect to our second quarter results, revenues were flat sequentially at $579 million. We generated $136 million of adjusted EBITDA with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 23%. Second quarter adjusted EBITDA represents a 15% decline relative to the first quarter. Margins were negatively impacted by a decrease in average active fleets, weaker pricing and lower relative cost absorption. Although adjusted EBITDA declined, ProFrac generated free cash flow of $74 million, demonstrating our ability to successfully navigate ebbs and flows and activity. We utilize cash to invest in our fleet, particularly next-generation technologies, sand mine improvements, strategic acquisitions and for debt service obligations. Turning to our segments. Stimulation Services revenues were $506 million in the second quarter in line with the first quarter. Average active fleet count and pricing on equipment and materials witnessed marginal decreases versus the first quarter due to intra quarter rollover of customers and increased white space. Adjusted EBITDA was $107 million for the second quarter, a decline of approximately 14% versus Q1. Margins declined by approximately 300 basis points as prudent cost management partially offset the impact of reduced pricing and activity. This segment was impacted by approximately $8 million in shortfall expense related to our supply agreement with Flotek in line with the prior quarter. Despite the sequential decline in Stimulation Services results, our commercial and operational strategies coupled with our cost structure enabled us to generate free cash flow. Of note, we achieved mid-teens EBITDA per fleet and allocated capital to maintain and upgrade our fleet. The Proppant Production segment generated $70 million of revenue in the second quarter, inclusive of the amortization of acquired contract liabilities of $11 million, representing an 11% sequential decline. Revenue was negatively impacted by a decrease in pricing coupled with a minimal reduction in volumes. Activity in natural gas basins remains subdued and the market in West Texas remains highly competitive. We executed on initiatives to reduce both capital expenditures and fixed operating costs, including the idling of one mine. Our rapid cost reduction initiatives enabled us to partially mitigate the impact of lower cost absorption. Approximately 75% of volumes were sold to third-party customers during the second quarter as we executed on our strategy to diversify exposure. Adjusted EBITDA for the Proppant Production segment totaled $26 million for the second quarter, representing a 10% sequential decrease. Adjusted EBITDA margins were flat quarter-over-quarter at approximately 37%, activity declines witnessed in late second quarter subsisted into early third quarter. We are beginning to see improved commercial opportunities and anticipate that this segment will witness a recovery in volumes as we progress through the quarter although pricing remains competitive. The Manufacturing segment generated second quarter revenues of $56 million, up approximately 29% from the first quarter. Approximately 74% of segment revenues were generated via intercompany sales. The increase in sales in the second quarter was a result of hours pumped and engine upgrades at Stimulation Services. Adjusted EBITDA for the Manufacturing segment was approximately $100,000 for the second quarter, a sequential decline of $4.3 million. Lower pricing enacted early in the second quarter, coupled with flat production costs from legacy inventory drove the majority of the decline in adjusted EBITDA. Selling, general, and administrative expenses were $54 million in the second quarter compared to $51 million in the first quarter. The increase was primarily driven by stock-based compensation. Cash capital expenditures totaled approximately $62 million in the second quarter, approximately flat from the prior quarter. In addition to activity driven maintenance, we invested in next-generation equipment, including but not limited to dual fuel engines, e-fleets and mine upgrades at Alpine. Just as we acted swiftly to right size our spending levels in recent quarters to more accurately reflect demand, we are actively evaluating capital expenditure and capital allocation plans. As a result, we now expect to incur total capital expenditures during 2024 that are closer to the lower end of our previous guidance. We anticipate spending between $150 million and $200 million in maintenance capital expenditures for the year, along with approximately $100 million on growth related CapEx. Additionally, we are executing on cost reduction initiatives with the goal of decreasing operating expenses at our subsidiaries as well as at the corporate level. Total cash, and cash equivalents as of June 30 were $24 million, including $5 million attributable to Flotek. Total liquidity at quarter end was approximately $161 million, including $142 million available under the ABL. Borrowings under the ABL credit facility ended the quarter in $150 million, up approximately $12 million from the prior quarter. At the end of the second quarter, we had approximately $1.2 billion of debt outstanding, an increase sequentially related to the senior secured floating rate notes issued in connection with the acquisition of AST in June. The majority of our debt does not mature until January 2029. We intend to utilize free cash flow in future periods to deleverage. We look forward to continuing to execute on our strategic priorities, partnering with customers to provide best-in-class integrated solutions, increasing efficiencies across the organization and generating free cash flow through the cycle. That concludes our formal remarks. Operator, please open the line for questions.

Operator: Thank you. The lines are now open for questions. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Stephen Gengaro from Stifel. Go ahead, Stephen.

Stephen Gengaro: Thanks. Good morning, everybody.

Ladd Wilks: Good morning.

Stephen Gengaro: Two questions for me, one's a bigger picture, one's probably more specific. But the first one I had was when you think about your competitive advantage and kind of what drives competitive advantage at the well site. I mean, one of them, I think, is the assets. Right. One of them is the integration. But as the industry kind of evolves into more people having similar type assets, at least. How do you hold the competitive advantage two, three years out as sort of equipment normalizes, if that's a reasonable assumption?

Ladd Wilks: Yes, there's a lot to that question. So, I mean, essentially, your next-gen fuel efficient fleets are in high demand, and that definitely provides a huge competitive advantage. But when we look at the competitive landscape and who can participate with those equipment types, it's a smaller and smaller group. While we are seeing a little bit of a lot more people with those types of assets or more of those assets out there, it's all consolidated within a smaller and smaller group. It's difficult to go from Tier 2 diesel and upgrade in this environment. So we're not too concerned. We love competition. We're happy with a smaller group having the same similar assets. But I think it reinforces our overall strategy. And what we really focus on is, I don't think it's good for the industry to have a competitor come in and fail with a new technology. It really diminishes the entire category, and it can take a little bit to get that customer to try the technology again. I like the fact that our largest three or four competitors are doing a relatively good job with newer technologies.

Stephen Gengaro: Great. Thank you.

Ladd Wilks: But as far as our competitive advantage, I think the competitive advantage really comes from not just overall technology offerings, but the fully integrated approach from controls and really focusing on providing solutions and making it as easy as possible for our customers to complete wells.

Stephen Gengaro: Okay. Thank you. And then when we think about the second half of this year, can you give us any color on how we should be thinking about pricing and profitability per fleet? As we just think about the back half of this year.

Ladd Wilks: We expect it to be relatively flat. Of course, we watch the overall market. Our main focus is on what we can control, the overall macro environment, geopolitical risks, things like that, those are always an element, but you can't plan a business around any of those items. We're managing this business in a flat profile and focusing on the things that we can control from a cost structure, inventory management, and really managing the market we have now. And that's along with the cyclical nature throughout the year that we're faced with.

Stephen Gengaro: Okay, thank you for the color.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from Dan Kutz from Morgan Stanley (NYSE:MS). Go ahead.

Dan Kutz: Hey, thanks. Good morning. Maybe if I could just put a or comment the second half and third quarter question from a different angle. If we kind of think about some of the puts and takes that you guys disclosed in the prepared remarks and in the press release, kind of flat stimulation services pricing, some room for kind of cost based profitability per fleet improvement, some inbound for additional integrated fleet deployments, and then kind of some puts and takes in Proppant Production that sounds like that might be down a little bit in the third quarter. But if we think about the second quarter result, my takeaway from those comments would be that the third quarter EBITDA can be growing. Do you think that's fair? And if so, is there anything you could share on the magnitude of potential growth in the third quarter? Thanks.

Ladd Wilks: Yes, there's certainly the potential. But what we're focused on right now is going in and executing on the integrated model, growing that side of the portfolio, and working with a relatively flat market, managing costs, managing working capital and inventory. And I think we can generate some respectable results. But we're also looking at the overall customer mix and making sure that we provide all of our customer's incredible service. But I definitely think that there's a tremendous opportunity to grow it. But what we're looking at and managing around is a flat market with growth and opportunity coming from the things we can control.

Dan Kutz: Yep, understood. That makes a lot of sense. And then if I could just ask on the AST acquisition, so you guys already kind of elaborated on the strategic rationale in the prepared remarks, but I guess you guys have consistently communicated the acquire, retire, replace strategy this fits into that strategy. But more recently, I guess, presumably you have some idle fleets, and delevering has moved up on the capital allocation priority list. So just in light of those two factors, just wondering if you could expand on the strategic rationale for the AST acquisition. Thank you.

Austin Harbour: Certainly this was an asset that came at a great value, a great price and credible asset base and workforce, and a great reputation in West Texas. I think it complements our portfolio out there really, really well with really high quality customers attached to it. The quality of the fleet was, certainly of high quality. It does complement our acquire, retire, replace. It's not particularly reflected in our Q2 numbers, to the level that we would want it to be as, we only had just over a couple weeks in June that our numbers were complemented by. So look forward to having a full quarter with it and, many years beyond having that package added to our profile.

Dan Kutz: Great. Thanks a lot. I appreciate that color. I'll turn it back.

Austin Harbour: Thank you.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Saurabh Pant from Bank of America (NYSE:BAC). Go ahead.

Saurabh Pant: Hi. Good morning, Matt and Ladd. Maybe I'll start with a question on the gas side of things. I know you guys have an outsized exposure relative to your peers on the gas side of things. Maybe you can talk a little bit to your outlook for the balance of the year. On the gas activity side, do things get worse before they get better? Because listening to the E&P calls this season, it sounds like there's some risk of more activity curtailment in the very near term.

Matt Wilks: Yes, I mean, we're cautiously optimistic about the gas markets going into the back half of the year. But look, we're not guiding towards it. We're in constant conversations with customers, and we're seeing opportunities coming with it. But in Q2, we certainly had an impact from gas markets slowing down faster than we expected them to. But rather than getting all bowled up and overly excited about a bounce back, we're planning our business for a flat environment from here, working with customers that seem to be readying for some additional activity. But we're letting them manage the macro environment and we're managing our costs, managing our business in a very disciplined way. And what I will say is, when we do see a recovery in the gas markets and activity pickup with it, you're going to see a very substantial impact on our performance. And so we're really looking to those gas markets to come back and activity to come with it, and we'll be in a position to show the full effect of our integrated model.

Saurabh Pant: Right. No, absolutely, Matt, I know you got more leverage to the gas markets than many of your peers, so that makes sense. And then one clarification. I know you don't talk about absolute fleet count, but I think, Austin, you had in your prepared remarks that I think you said annualized EBITDA per fleet in the quarter was around mid-teens. So if I try to do that math, it sounds like you would have had maybe 30 fleets or slightly less than 30 fleets in the second quarter. First thing, am I roughly doing that math right? And then just on that fleet count side of things, how should we think about where things go in the back half of the year?

Austin Harbour: Yes, I think you're thinking about it kind of in between the right and the fairway on that. I think as we look going forward, right. We're managing to the things that we can control. As you think about, as you think about fleet count and you think about the opportunity set we have, I think there are absolutely opportunities for us to improve on the numbers that you laid out. I think it equally as importantly, there are more opportunities for us to focus on efficiencies from the cost perspective in addition to efficiencies with specific customers that we have in the portfolio today. And so I think going forward, that kind of mid-teens EBITDA number should ring true.

Saurabh Pant: Okay, fantastic. No, I know the RFP season is coming up, so you would have more opportunities to get volumes, but again, it's more about profitability. So I appreciate that. Okay, guys, thank you. I'll turn it back.

Austin Harbour: Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from John Daniel from Daniel Energy Partners. Go ahead, John, your line is open.

John Daniel: Thanks. Thank you for including me. Matt, I know the market is tough right now, but it seems like pumping hours per day keep grinding higher each quarter. And at the same time, E&P companies often, well, they don't often, almost always, are citing the virtues of their D&C efficiency gains. It just makes you wonder, like, if you looked at your very best fleets today, and maybe as you approach 25 during RFP season, and could you rate, do you think you could raise rates on those fleets? Do you think the customers would take it to maintain that efficiency, or would they risk that efficiency and go lower price?

Matt Wilks: Yes, I think that's a difficult question for a lot of reasons. We would always love to get paid more, but I think focusing on the overall relationship with the customers is the most important thing. When we look at our ability to get higher and higher efficiencies, that comes from a partnership and a customer who's focused on efficiencies as much as you are. And in good markets, a rising tide lifts all boats. But in markets like this, we get our margin from efficiencies and stability and a great relationship and partnership with the customers you're working with. So that's really where we're looking for margin expansion is through things we can control from cost rationalization, inventory rationalization, and grinding out the value from operating leverage. And so that's what we're focused on. If a better market comes along and lifts all boats, then ours will be lifted with it.

John Daniel: Fair enough. And then as you look at the mines that were idled or the mine that was idled and try to fast forward four quarters to five quarters should [ph] now in the hopes of higher activity, would you be inclined to reactivate it in anticipation of higher activity, or would you wait until your other stuff is sold out, pricing has gone up to reactivate? Just any thoughts on how you would go about that process?

Ladd Wilks: Yes. The mine that we idled was, logistically, a little bit out of pretty good ways. Outside of the, really, the outer bounds of the Haynesville, there was one customer that was in close enough proximity to it. One of the things we like about that particular asset is that it's has some industrial opportunities. So regardless of what gas markets do on that particular mine, we may find some industrial opportunities that would warrant us to kick that back on. That's probably the most likely outcome. Even if we did see a gas recovery, that's just a better use case for that asset. But the other three mines that we have in that basin have tremendous logistics advantages, and that's why, even in this environment, we've been able to keep those.

John Daniel: Got it. Okay. That's all I've got. Thank you for letting me ask some questions.

Ladd Wilks: Definitely. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. This does conclude our question-and-answer session today. I would now like to turn it back to Matt Wilks for any closing remarks.

Matt Wilks: Definitely, we thank everybody for joining this morning. We look forward to Q3 and the remainder of the year. We've got a lot of great things going on at ProFrac. Really proud of our team. As we look forward, we're really excited to be focusing on our operating leverage, our integrated model, and the managing of cost controls and inventory management. We're excited about what we'll be able to do with that. And with the market recovery, maybe we'll get some top line growth. But right now, this is all about cost rationalization and expansion of margin through execution. We appreciate everybody joining our call today, and thank you.

Operator: Thank you. This does conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day.

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